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Re: non-breaking period?

David H
 

Hi Char,

Glad you're now on the right path.

David


Hi, all :-)

Thank you so much!

Kris, we use PTC's Advanced Print Publisher as a renderer. The team in charge of our implementation is going to test it out-of-the-box to see if my issue arises. If it does, then the issue is in the renderer. If it doesn't, then it's in our customizations.

David, it was your message (followed by Ron's) where I finally perceived what I think the others were trying to say. (It's been a week ;-). So if the issue is with our customizations, our implementation team will try to figure out why the break occurs after a period in version.revision.

WRT word joiner, one person (not on my team) was able to get it to work successfully with my files. However, even when she put the character entity in a DITA file and I copied-and-pasted, it still isn't working on my system. I'm not going to try to figure this out unless absolutely necessary.

Many thanks again to everyone for helping :-)

Char

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 7:12 PM Ron Wheeler <rwheeler348@...> wrote:

If this were true, hardly anyone could use DITA.
Does anyone produce a document today without an email address or a web site reference somewhere in it?
"dita-users@groups.io" is not the same as "dita-users@groups. io". "facebook. com" is not "facebook.com".

DITA without support for real numbers (2.5, 3.1416, 42.0, etc.)  could hardly be a useful product for producing labels or data sheets.

It has to be something else going on here.

Ron

On 2020-04-29 3:10 p.m., David H wrote:
Hi Grant, Char,

Yes, I do understand that you both DO NOT want a break at a period.

Myself and Noel are asking, "Why does a renderer break at a period?"

The fact that at least one renderer DOES break at a period makes no sense to me, unless it is to support languages other than English.

The typical English sentence structure should, surely, break at the space after a period, NOT at the period.

So, my thoughts are that it is either the renderer that is at fault, or there maybe something in the FO stream that causes the renderer to break at the period. That is, the renderer has decided that a break must go somewhere at that point in the FO stream, and has chosen the period as the 'least worst' option.

Could someone from one or other of the renderer companies please explain the rationale for breaking at a period, please?

HTH,
David


Hi David.
One answer to your question about breaking at a period is "version numbers".  If I have version 12.4.0055 of something, I don't want a line break in the middle of the number.  
Another would be money. You don't want $12.55 to break at the period.
I'm sure that there are others, but those are the ones I have had to deal with.

Regards,
Grant Hogarth 
Technical Writer, Services Tools team
Workiva Inc. 
1700 Platte St, Suite 200, Denver, Colorado 80202 
Mobile: 1-801-815-8353 


On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 8:59 AM David H <djbhollis@...> wrote:
Hi Char,

I think Jean-Noël is right. Why would a period cause a break? In sentence structure, surely it's the space after a period that causes the break? The period and space should be at the end of the first line, not at the start of the second line.

But those would be the rules for English. Are there other languages that would break on a period, or use a period without a following space in sentence structure?

HTH,
David


Hi,  Jean-Noël :-)

I don't want a space after the period...I want "x.y" to stay together, not break across lines.


Hi, Wayne :-)

I tried the Cool Symbols site, and while I can copy-and-paste other symbols, nothing really happens when I copy "word joiner" (ZWJ). I've tried on both laptops, and when I paste into Notepad or the text view in Arbortext, the apps think I did something (because they want me to save when I close), but nothing appears. 

I also tried publishing after inserting ZWJ, but the issue still occurs.


Thanks to everyone who helped :-) I'll have to think of something else.

Char

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 3:33 AM Jean-Noël AVILA <avila.jn@...> wrote:
Hi,

AFAIK, a period is non-breaking by default. Even when writing a sentence, you don't want the period to be sent on the next line.

I would suspect the action of a "smart" automatic corrector inserting a space after the period when rendering.

Best regards,

Jean-Noël

Le 27/04/2020 à 19:54, CharJTF a écrit :
Hi :-)

I've tried a number of things to try to keep a version number together (for example, "3.x") when a) it's included in a topic title and b) the topic is the target of an <xref>.

I've added <_nolinebreak> around the version in the title, but it's being ignored in the <xref>. The version number is split across lines, with "3." on one line and "x" on the next.

Does anyone know of a solution? I'm not aware of any character called "non-breaking period".

Thanks!

Char













Re: non-breaking period?

CharJTF
 

Hi, all :-)

Thank you so much!

Kris, we use PTC's Advanced Print Publisher as a renderer. The team in charge of our implementation is going to test it out-of-the-box to see if my issue arises. If it does, then the issue is in the renderer. If it doesn't, then it's in our customizations.

David, it was your message (followed by Ron's) where I finally perceived what I think the others were trying to say. (It's been a week ;-). So if the issue is with our customizations, our implementation team will try to figure out why the break occurs after a period in version.revision.

WRT word joiner, one person (not on my team) was able to get it to work successfully with my files. However, even when she put the character entity in a DITA file and I copied-and-pasted, it still isn't working on my system. I'm not going to try to figure this out unless absolutely necessary.

Many thanks again to everyone for helping :-)

Char

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 7:12 PM Ron Wheeler <rwheeler348@...> wrote:

If this were true, hardly anyone could use DITA.
Does anyone produce a document today without an email address or a web site reference somewhere in it?
"dita-users@groups.io" is not the same as "dita-users@groups. io". "facebook. com" is not "facebook.com".

DITA without support for real numbers (2.5, 3.1416, 42.0, etc.)  could hardly be a useful product for producing labels or data sheets.

It has to be something else going on here.

Ron

On 2020-04-29 3:10 p.m., David H wrote:
Hi Grant, Char,

Yes, I do understand that you both DO NOT want a break at a period.

Myself and Noel are asking, "Why does a renderer break at a period?"

The fact that at least one renderer DOES break at a period makes no sense to me, unless it is to support languages other than English.

The typical English sentence structure should, surely, break at the space after a period, NOT at the period.

So, my thoughts are that it is either the renderer that is at fault, or there maybe something in the FO stream that causes the renderer to break at the period. That is, the renderer has decided that a break must go somewhere at that point in the FO stream, and has chosen the period as the 'least worst' option.

Could someone from one or other of the renderer companies please explain the rationale for breaking at a period, please?

HTH,
David


Hi David.
One answer to your question about breaking at a period is "version numbers".  If I have version 12.4.0055 of something, I don't want a line break in the middle of the number.  
Another would be money. You don't want $12.55 to break at the period.
I'm sure that there are others, but those are the ones I have had to deal with.

Regards,
Grant Hogarth 
Technical Writer, Services Tools team
Workiva Inc. 
1700 Platte St, Suite 200, Denver, Colorado 80202 
Mobile: 1-801-815-8353 


On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 8:59 AM David H <djbhollis@...> wrote:
Hi Char,

I think Jean-Noël is right. Why would a period cause a break? In sentence structure, surely it's the space after a period that causes the break? The period and space should be at the end of the first line, not at the start of the second line.

But those would be the rules for English. Are there other languages that would break on a period, or use a period without a following space in sentence structure?

HTH,
David


Hi,  Jean-Noël :-)

I don't want a space after the period...I want "x.y" to stay together, not break across lines.


Hi, Wayne :-)

I tried the Cool Symbols site, and while I can copy-and-paste other symbols, nothing really happens when I copy "word joiner" (ZWJ). I've tried on both laptops, and when I paste into Notepad or the text view in Arbortext, the apps think I did something (because they want me to save when I close), but nothing appears. 

I also tried publishing after inserting ZWJ, but the issue still occurs.


Thanks to everyone who helped :-) I'll have to think of something else.

Char

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 3:33 AM Jean-Noël AVILA <avila.jn@...> wrote:
Hi,

AFAIK, a period is non-breaking by default. Even when writing a sentence, you don't want the period to be sent on the next line.

I would suspect the action of a "smart" automatic corrector inserting a space after the period when rendering.

Best regards,

Jean-Noël

Le 27/04/2020 à 19:54, CharJTF a écrit :
Hi :-)

I've tried a number of things to try to keep a version number together (for example, "3.x") when a) it's included in a topic title and b) the topic is the target of an <xref>.

I've added <_nolinebreak> around the version in the title, but it's being ignored in the <xref>. The version number is split across lines, with "3." on one line and "x" on the next.

Does anyone know of a solution? I'm not aware of any character called "non-breaking period".

Thanks!

Char










[Ann] Oxygen XML Editor Webinar - Extending the Functionality of Oxygen Using Add-ons

Radu Coravu
 

Hi everyone,

We are excited to announce the "Extending the Functionality of Oxygen Using Add-ons" webinar on May 6, 2020.

During the webinar, my colleague Sorin Carbunaru will take a deeper look at some of the most popular add-ons that are available for Oxygen XML Editor. You will get to see what benefits they provide, and some ideas for how they can be integrated into your particular authoring workflow. Some of the add-ons that will be featured include:

•    The Git Client add-on that contributes a Git client directly in the Oxygen interface.
•    The Batch Converter add-on that can be used to convert multiple files from one type to another.
•    The DITA Outgoing References add-on that contributes a side view where you can see all the outgoing references for the current topic.

You can register for free at https://www.oxygenxml.com/events/2020/webinar_extending_the_functionality_of_Oxygen_using_ddd_ons.html

This webinar will be recorded and made available on our website a few days following the event.
So if you are interested you are welcome to attend.

Regards,

Radu

Radu Coravu
Oxygen XML Editor


Re: Announce: #DITA-OT 3.5 now available, including preview support for some DITA 2.0 features! #DITA-OT

Jarno Elovirta
 

Hi,

We don't have that much documentation about the resource files yet, for which I'm to blame for. The use case for resource files is being able to convert partial documentation sets. It's kind of like having multiple input files, but where you can flag some input files as resource only. For example,

$ dita -i single.topic -r keys.ditamap -f html5

Would convert single.topic into HTML5, using keys defined in the keys.ditamap. So you don't have to convert the full map just to preview a single topic. Or, you could use

$ dita -i chapter.ditamap -r reltables.ditamap -f html5

that would convert chapter.ditamap into HTML5 and inject related links from reltables.ditamap into the topics.

Cheers,

Jarno


Re: Announce: #DITA-OT 3.5 now available, including preview support for some DITA 2.0 features! #DITA-OT

Radu Coravu
 

Hi,

In addition to what Robert said, there's an Oxygen XML Editor (version 20.0 or newer) add-on for those interested in creating new DITA topics based on the DITA 2.0 standard schemas and to use the DITA OT 3.5 for publishing from Oxygen XML Editor:

 https://github.com/oxygenxml/dita-ot-latest-addon

Regards,
Radu
Radu Coravu
Oxygen XML Editor

On 4/30/20 4:08 AM, Robert D Anderson wrote:
I'm pleased to announce the release of DITA Open Toolkit version 3.5!

This release comes with several new fixes and features, and is the first release to include previews of functionality from the upcoming DITA 2.0 standard. Features include:
* The ability to use DITAVAL files to flag elements with outputclass attribute tokens (you can even use new the DITA 2.0 DITAVAL attribute to do this with existing DITA 1.x content)
* A new parameter to specify resources when building a topic or map (such as a map of key definitions)
* New subcommands available for the "dita" command line interface

For a full list of features and fixes, see the DITA-OT 3.5 release notes:
https://www.dita-ot.org/3.5/release-notes/index.html

Thanks as usual to Jarno Elovirta, Roger Sheen, and all of the others who contributed to this release!

Robert Anderson


  


Announce: #DITA-OT 3.5 now available, including preview support for some DITA 2.0 features! #DITA-OT

Robert D Anderson
 

I'm pleased to announce the release of DITA Open Toolkit version 3.5!

This release comes with several new fixes and features, and is the first release to include previews of functionality from the upcoming DITA 2.0 standard. Features include:
* The ability to use DITAVAL files to flag elements with outputclass attribute tokens (you can even use new the DITA 2.0 DITAVAL attribute to do this with existing DITA 1.x content)
* A new parameter to specify resources when building a topic or map (such as a map of key definitions)
* New subcommands available for the "dita" command line interface

For a full list of features and fixes, see the DITA-OT 3.5 release notes:
https://www.dita-ot.org/3.5/release-notes/index.html

Thanks as usual to Jarno Elovirta, Roger Sheen, and all of the others who contributed to this release!

Robert Anderson


Re: non-breaking period?

Ron Wheeler
 


If this were true, hardly anyone could use DITA.
Does anyone produce a document today without an email address or a web site reference somewhere in it?
"dita-users@groups.io" is not the same as "dita-users@groups. io". "facebook. com" is not "facebook.com".

DITA without support for real numbers (2.5, 3.1416, 42.0, etc.)  could hardly be a useful product for producing labels or data sheets.

It has to be something else going on here.

Ron

On 2020-04-29 3:10 p.m., David H wrote:
Hi Grant, Char,

Yes, I do understand that you both DO NOT want a break at a period.

Myself and Noel are asking, "Why does a renderer break at a period?"

The fact that at least one renderer DOES break at a period makes no sense to me, unless it is to support languages other than English.

The typical English sentence structure should, surely, break at the space after a period, NOT at the period.

So, my thoughts are that it is either the renderer that is at fault, or there maybe something in the FO stream that causes the renderer to break at the period. That is, the renderer has decided that a break must go somewhere at that point in the FO stream, and has chosen the period as the 'least worst' option.

Could someone from one or other of the renderer companies please explain the rationale for breaking at a period, please?

HTH,
David


Hi David.
One answer to your question about breaking at a period is "version numbers".  If I have version 12.4.0055 of something, I don't want a line break in the middle of the number.  
Another would be money. You don't want $12.55 to break at the period.
I'm sure that there are others, but those are the ones I have had to deal with.

Regards,
Grant Hogarth 
Technical Writer, Services Tools team
Workiva Inc. 
1700 Platte St, Suite 200, Denver, Colorado 80202 
Mobile: 1-801-815-8353 


On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 8:59 AM David H <djbhollis@...> wrote:
Hi Char,

I think Jean-Noël is right. Why would a period cause a break? In sentence structure, surely it's the space after a period that causes the break? The period and space should be at the end of the first line, not at the start of the second line.

But those would be the rules for English. Are there other languages that would break on a period, or use a period without a following space in sentence structure?

HTH,
David


Hi,  Jean-Noël :-)

I don't want a space after the period...I want "x.y" to stay together, not break across lines.


Hi, Wayne :-)

I tried the Cool Symbols site, and while I can copy-and-paste other symbols, nothing really happens when I copy "word joiner" (ZWJ). I've tried on both laptops, and when I paste into Notepad or the text view in Arbortext, the apps think I did something (because they want me to save when I close), but nothing appears. 

I also tried publishing after inserting ZWJ, but the issue still occurs.


Thanks to everyone who helped :-) I'll have to think of something else.

Char

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 3:33 AM Jean-Noël AVILA <avila.jn@...> wrote:
Hi,

AFAIK, a period is non-breaking by default. Even when writing a sentence, you don't want the period to be sent on the next line.

I would suspect the action of a "smart" automatic corrector inserting a space after the period when rendering.

Best regards,

Jean-Noël

Le 27/04/2020 à 19:54, CharJTF a écrit :
Hi :-)

I've tried a number of things to try to keep a version number together (for example, "3.x") when a) it's included in a topic title and b) the topic is the target of an <xref>.

I've added <_nolinebreak> around the version in the title, but it's being ignored in the <xref>. The version number is split across lines, with "3." on one line and "x" on the next.

Does anyone know of a solution? I'm not aware of any character called "non-breaking period".

Thanks!

Char










Re: non-breaking period?

David H
 

Hi Grant, Char,

Yes, I do understand that you both DO NOT want a break at a period.

Myself and Noel are asking, "Why does a renderer break at a period?"

The fact that at least one renderer DOES break at a period makes no sense to me, unless it is to support languages other than English.

The typical English sentence structure should, surely, break at the space after a period, NOT at the period.

So, my thoughts are that it is either the renderer that is at fault, or there maybe something in the FO stream that causes the renderer to break at the period. That is, the renderer has decided that a break must go somewhere at that point in the FO stream, and has chosen the period as the 'least worst' option.

Could someone from one or other of the renderer companies please explain the rationale for breaking at a period, please?

HTH,
David


Hi David.
One answer to your question about breaking at a period is "version numbers".  If I have version 12.4.0055 of something, I don't want a line break in the middle of the number.  
Another would be money. You don't want $12.55 to break at the period.
I'm sure that there are others, but those are the ones I have had to deal with.

Regards,
Grant Hogarth 
Technical Writer, Services Tools team
Workiva Inc. 
1700 Platte St, Suite 200, Denver, Colorado 80202 
Mobile: 1-801-815-8353 


On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 8:59 AM David H <djbhollis@...> wrote:
Hi Char,

I think Jean-Noël is right. Why would a period cause a break? In sentence structure, surely it's the space after a period that causes the break? The period and space should be at the end of the first line, not at the start of the second line.

But those would be the rules for English. Are there other languages that would break on a period, or use a period without a following space in sentence structure?

HTH,
David


Hi,  Jean-Noël :-)

I don't want a space after the period...I want "x.y" to stay together, not break across lines.


Hi, Wayne :-)

I tried the Cool Symbols site, and while I can copy-and-paste other symbols, nothing really happens when I copy "word joiner" (ZWJ). I've tried on both laptops, and when I paste into Notepad or the text view in Arbortext, the apps think I did something (because they want me to save when I close), but nothing appears. 

I also tried publishing after inserting ZWJ, but the issue still occurs.


Thanks to everyone who helped :-) I'll have to think of something else.

Char

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 3:33 AM Jean-Noël AVILA <avila.jn@...> wrote:
Hi,

AFAIK, a period is non-breaking by default. Even when writing a sentence, you don't want the period to be sent on the next line.

I would suspect the action of a "smart" automatic corrector inserting a space after the period when rendering.

Best regards,

Jean-Noël

Le 27/04/2020 à 19:54, CharJTF a écrit :
Hi :-)

I've tried a number of things to try to keep a version number together (for example, "3.x") when a) it's included in a topic title and b) the topic is the target of an <xref>.

I've added <_nolinebreak> around the version in the title, but it's being ignored in the <xref>. The version number is split across lines, with "3." on one line and "x" on the next.

Does anyone know of a solution? I'm not aware of any character called "non-breaking period".

Thanks!

Char









Re: non-breaking period?

 

Hi David.
One answer to your question about breaking at a period is "version numbers".  If I have version 12.4.0055 of something, I don't want a line break in the middle of the number.  
Another would be money. You don't want $12.55 to break at the period.
I'm sure that there are others, but those are the ones I have had to deal with.

Regards,
Grant Hogarth 
Technical Writer, Services Tools team
Workiva Inc. 
1700 Platte St, Suite 200, Denver, Colorado 80202 
Mobile: 1-801-815-8353 


On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 8:59 AM David H <djbhollis@...> wrote:
Hi Char,

I think Jean-Noël is right. Why would a period cause a break? In sentence structure, surely it's the space after a period that causes the break? The period and space should be at the end of the first line, not at the start of the second line.

But those would be the rules for English. Are there other languages that would break on a period, or use a period without a following space in sentence structure?

HTH,
David


Hi,  Jean-Noël :-)

I don't want a space after the period...I want "x.y" to stay together, not break across lines.


Hi, Wayne :-)

I tried the Cool Symbols site, and while I can copy-and-paste other symbols, nothing really happens when I copy "word joiner" (ZWJ). I've tried on both laptops, and when I paste into Notepad or the text view in Arbortext, the apps think I did something (because they want me to save when I close), but nothing appears. 

I also tried publishing after inserting ZWJ, but the issue still occurs.


Thanks to everyone who helped :-) I'll have to think of something else.

Char

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 3:33 AM Jean-Noël AVILA <avila.jn@...> wrote:
Hi,

AFAIK, a period is non-breaking by default. Even when writing a sentence, you don't want the period to be sent on the next line.

I would suspect the action of a "smart" automatic corrector inserting a space after the period when rendering.

Best regards,

Jean-Noël

Le 27/04/2020 à 19:54, CharJTF a écrit :
Hi :-)

I've tried a number of things to try to keep a version number together (for example, "3.x") when a) it's included in a topic title and b) the topic is the target of an <xref>.

I've added <_nolinebreak> around the version in the title, but it's being ignored in the <xref>. The version number is split across lines, with "3." on one line and "x" on the next.

Does anyone know of a solution? I'm not aware of any character called "non-breaking period".

Thanks!

Char






Re: non-breaking period?

David H
 

Hi Char,

I think Jean-Noël is right. Why would a period cause a break? In sentence structure, surely it's the space after a period that causes the break? The period and space should be at the end of the first line, not at the start of the second line.

But those would be the rules for English. Are there other languages that would break on a period, or use a period without a following space in sentence structure?

HTH,
David


Hi,  Jean-Noël :-)

I don't want a space after the period...I want "x.y" to stay together, not break across lines.


Hi, Wayne :-)

I tried the Cool Symbols site, and while I can copy-and-paste other symbols, nothing really happens when I copy "word joiner" (ZWJ). I've tried on both laptops, and when I paste into Notepad or the text view in Arbortext, the apps think I did something (because they want me to save when I close), but nothing appears. 

I also tried publishing after inserting ZWJ, but the issue still occurs.


Thanks to everyone who helped :-) I'll have to think of something else.

Char

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 3:33 AM Jean-Noël AVILA <avila.jn@...> wrote:
Hi,

AFAIK, a period is non-breaking by default. Even when writing a sentence, you don't want the period to be sent on the next line.

I would suspect the action of a "smart" automatic corrector inserting a space after the period when rendering.

Best regards,

Jean-Noël

Le 27/04/2020 à 19:54, CharJTF a écrit :
Hi :-)

I've tried a number of things to try to keep a version number together (for example, "3.x") when a) it's included in a topic title and b) the topic is the target of an <xref>.

I've added <_nolinebreak> around the version in the title, but it's being ignored in the <xref>. The version number is split across lines, with "3." on one line and "x" on the next.

Does anyone know of a solution? I'm not aware of any character called "non-breaking period".

Thanks!

Char






Re: non-breaking period?

Kristen James Eberlein
 

Char, the issue here is what renderer are you using?
-- 
Best,
Kris

Kristen James Eberlein
Chair, OASIS DITA Technical Committee
Principal consultant, Eberlein Consulting LLC
www.eberleinconsulting.com
+1 919 622-1501; kriseberlein (skype)


Re: non-breaking period?

CharJTF
 

Hi,  Jean-Noël :-)

I don't want a space after the period...I want "x.y" to stay together, not break across lines.


Hi, Wayne :-)

I tried the Cool Symbols site, and while I can copy-and-paste other symbols, nothing really happens when I copy "word joiner" (ZWJ). I've tried on both laptops, and when I paste into Notepad or the text view in Arbortext, the apps think I did something (because they want me to save when I close), but nothing appears. 

I also tried publishing after inserting ZWJ, but the issue still occurs.


Thanks to everyone who helped :-) I'll have to think of something else.

Char

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 3:33 AM Jean-Noël AVILA <avila.jn@...> wrote:
Hi,

AFAIK, a period is non-breaking by default. Even when writing a sentence, you don't want the period to be sent on the next line.

I would suspect the action of a "smart" automatic corrector inserting a space after the period when rendering.

Best regards,

Jean-Noël

Le 27/04/2020 à 19:54, CharJTF a écrit :
Hi :-)

I've tried a number of things to try to keep a version number together (for example, "3.x") when a) it's included in a topic title and b) the topic is the target of an <xref>.

I've added <_nolinebreak> around the version in the title, but it's being ignored in the <xref>. The version number is split across lines, with "3." on one line and "x" on the next.

Does anyone know of a solution? I'm not aware of any character called "non-breaking period".

Thanks!

Char



Re: non-breaking period?

Jean-Noël AVILA
 

Hi,

AFAIK, a period is non-breaking by default. Even when writing a sentence, you don't want the period to be sent on the next line.

I would suspect the action of a "smart" automatic corrector inserting a space after the period when rendering.

Best regards,

Jean-Noël

Le 27/04/2020 à 19:54, CharJTF a écrit :

Hi :-)

I've tried a number of things to try to keep a version number together (for example, "3.x") when a) it's included in a topic title and b) the topic is the target of an <xref>.

I've added <_nolinebreak> around the version in the title, but it's being ignored in the <xref>. The version number is split across lines, with "3." on one line and "x" on the next.

Does anyone know of a solution? I'm not aware of any character called "non-breaking period".

Thanks!

Char



Re: non-breaking period?

CharJTF
 

Hi, Wayne :-)

Thank you! I'll check it out tomorrow.

Char

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:34 PM Wayne Brissette <wbrisett@...> wrote:
Ah, now  I understand....

Try going to: https://coolsymbol.com

At the bottom of this page they have a box for the word joiner, if you
click the box it copies that to your computer's clipboard. See if that
will enable you to then just paste it into the editor (sorry an oXygen
user here, so I have no clue if what you can and can't do in Arbortext).

-Wayne





Re: non-breaking period?

Wayne Brissette
 

Ah, now  I understand....

Try going to: https://coolsymbol.com

At the bottom of this page they have a box for the word joiner, if you click the box it copies that to your computer's clipboard. See if that will enable you to then just paste it into the editor (sorry an oXygen user here, so I have no clue if what you can and can't do in Arbortext).

-Wayne


Re: non-breaking period?

CharJTF
 

Wayne, what I'm trying to keep together is a version.release number (like "3.x"). The "x" is ending up on the next line when the topic title is in an <xref>.

I've tried non-breaking spaces before and after, and I've tried <_nolinebreak>. Nothing is keeping the period and "x" together.

Char

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:17 PM Wayne Brissette <wbrisett@...> wrote:
I'll be honest, I would probably try a non-breaking space (&#160;), or
non-breaking hyphen if that's what you need, instead of word joiner. I
honestly wouldn't have thought of doing that myself, and instead would
have stuck with the tried and true non-breaking options. You're also
more likely to find non-breaking spaces and hyphens as part of the
standard font libraries. Bill, I'm curious myself. Why did you recommend
word joiner?

-Wayne






Re: non-breaking period?

Wayne Brissette
 

I'll be honest, I would probably try a non-breaking space (&#160;), or non-breaking hyphen if that's what you need, instead of word joiner. I honestly wouldn't have thought of doing that myself, and instead would have stuck with the tried and true non-breaking options. You're also more likely to find non-breaking spaces and hyphens as part of the standard font libraries. Bill, I'm curious myself. Why did you recommend word joiner?

-Wayne


Re: non-breaking period?

CharJTF
 

Many thanks to Wayne and Bill :-) I haven't gotten this to work but I think it's Arbortext thing, so I'm going to ask the team in charge of maintaining the app if they know what I should do. (They weren't aware of "word joiner", but hopefully, they'll know how to insert the code.)

Thanks again!

Char

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 1:06 PM Bill Burns <wdburns63@...> wrote:

Depends on the font. Times New Roman has it, but some others don’t. Using the character entity that Wayne provided should also work.

 

Bill

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From: main@dita-users.groups.io <main@dita-users.groups.io> On Behalf Of CharJTF
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 10:18 AM
To: main@dita-users.groups.io
Subject: Re: [dita-users] non-breaking period?

 

Hi, Bill :-)

 

I opened Character Map on both my work laptop and my personal laptop, and U+2060 doesn't exist on either. I'm not sure what else to try.

 

Char

 

On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 3:11 PM Bill Burns <wdburns63@...> wrote:

> I'm using Arbortext and can't figure out how to insert a non-breaking joiner. It dings when I try :-)

 

Should be able to copy it directly from the Character Map and paste it in. You might need to switch to text view to insert it that way. Or you can check the Special Character catalog and see if it’s available there. It’s been a while since I’ve used Arbortext. In Oxygen, it’s a breeze.

 

Bill

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Re: non-breaking period?

Bill Burns
 

Depends on the font. Times New Roman has it, but some others don’t. Using the character entity that Wayne provided should also work.

 

Bill

wdburns63@...

 

From: main@dita-users.groups.io <main@dita-users.groups.io> On Behalf Of CharJTF
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 10:18 AM
To: main@dita-users.groups.io
Subject: Re: [dita-users] non-breaking period?

 

Hi, Bill :-)

 

I opened Character Map on both my work laptop and my personal laptop, and U+2060 doesn't exist on either. I'm not sure what else to try.

 

Char

 

On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 3:11 PM Bill Burns <wdburns63@...> wrote:

> I'm using Arbortext and can't figure out how to insert a non-breaking joiner. It dings when I try :-)

 

Should be able to copy it directly from the Character Map and paste it in. You might need to switch to text view to insert it that way. Or you can check the Special Character catalog and see if it’s available there. It’s been a while since I’ve used Arbortext. In Oxygen, it’s a breeze.

 

Bill

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