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Re: Colaboration and feedback #content-delivery

ankursdl1@...
 

Hello Noel,

I am part of the SDL LiveContent division here at SDL.  If you would like to chat more feel free to give me a ring at 212-520-6082 or email abhatt@....

Thanks in advance,

Ankur


ANN: DITAToo DITA CMS 1.8 Is Released

Alex Masycheff
 

I’m very happy to announce that the new version of our DITAToo DITA CMS, DITAToo 1.8 is finally released!

This is a summary of the new features that you’ll find in DITAToo 1.8:

* Tagging projects and filtering projects by tags

* Tagging files and searching files by tags

* Specifying the files that should not be locked and downloaded for translation

* Removing a translation (for both individual files and entire projects)

* Unlocking files locked for translation

* Exporting the project translation status to a CSV file (which can be opened in MS Excel, for example)

* Packaging files for translation into a zip

* Specifying the file extension for new topics

* Adding missing navtitles to a project

* All-in-one installers and installing the required components as a part of the automatic DITAToo installation

* Support for MySQL Server 5.6

* Support for DITA Open Toolkit 1.7

You can read the full blog post and watch the short videos about new features in our blog: http://ig5authoringtools.com/ditatoo-1-8-is-released/

Note for DITAToo customers: if you bought DITAToo directly from us, you will receive the detailed information on how to get the new version shortly. If you bought DITAToo from one of our value-added resellers or implementation partners, you will receive this information from them.

Alex

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Re: topic title not showing in

Julio J Vazquez
 

Your empty <linktext> is suppressing the title. Remove it and you should get what you need.

Julio J. Vazquez
Write Spirit
http://www.writespiritservices.com


topic title not showing in <related-links>

communicator.ngn@...
 

Another case where I feel I’m missing something basic I ought to know already …

Here’s the related-links element from the bottom of a topic.

  <related-links>

    <link href="CCR_description.dita">

      <linktext/>

    </link>

  </related-links>

 I was rather hoping that when I output the topic it would display the <title> of CCR_description.dita, but no such luck. Is there something I need to add/check in CCR_description.dita? Typing in the title by hand as <linktext> would feel counter-productive.

 

Thanks in advance!


Re: Create continuous pdf

renderxxep
 

Most applications (including many Adobe ones like Distiller and many viewers) cannot handle PDF page sizes that exceed 200 inches. I do not think you will get what you want unless your document is less than 10 normal pages long. You would also need to ensure that you use the proper version for the PDF file. From the specification:

"In PDF versions earlier than PDF 1.6, the size of the default user space unit is fixed at 172 inch. In Acrobat viewers earlier than version 4.0, the minimum allowed page size is 72 by 72 units in default user space (1 by 1 inch); the maximum is 3240 by 3240 units (45 by 45 inches). In Acrobat versions 5.0 and later, the minimum allowed page size is 3 by 3 units (approximately 0.04 by 0.04 inch); the maximum is 14,400 by 14,400 units (200 by 200 inches).


Beginning with PDF 1.6, the size of the default user space unit may be set with the UserUnit entry of the page dictionary. Acrobat 7.0 supports a maximum UserUnit value of 75,000, which gives a maximum page dimension of 15,000,000 inches (14,400 * 75,000 * 172). The minimum UserUnit value is 1.0 (the default)."


Re: Looking for a HTML5 solution

Mark Peters
 

Thanks everyone! I'll give SuiteHelp a try, and am looking forward to also trying the upcoming HTML5 plugin release.

Best,
Mark


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 8:35 AM, Bertrand Lefort <blefort@...> wrote:
 

Thank you Ray, Mica and Craig for your comments.


As Mica explained it, I have nearly completed the next version of the HTML5 plugin. It has built-in support for  responsive design, syntax highlighting ( for  code) and some CSS3 features. It does not use AJAX or Frames. It comes with a collection of reusable css and javascripts and a mechanism (the theme mechanism, could have been named Skin) which allows you to customize it  for your needs. In the documentation, I explained how to port it to Foundation framework http://foundation.zurb.com and I will provide the customization plugin as a demo. I am planning to had a separate plugin for developpers who wants to use a CSS preprocessor. The plugin is not tight to any javascript library. 
For now, I am very busy with a big project at work but I will do my best to finish it soon.

Please note that I can't offer commercial support with this plugin yet, but you can send me email in private or using the list, I will do my best to answer to your question and use your feedback to improve the future releases.

The HTML5 plugin is part of the DITA 4 Publishers project and use its libraries to work.

Regards

Bertrand

On 2014-03-03, at 9:30 PM, Ray Fan <dfanster@...>
 wrote:



Bertrand and I have worked together on HTML 5 plugin for just Simplified Chinese, while my contribution is rather limited, I am generally happy with the HTML5 plugin output, where you have full control over its skins, by means of a 'Theme' based approach, so to speak. I have a  few artifacts to show.if you like, I can share with you. To the best of my knowledge, the responsive design is not ready yet, so a rendition effect on mobile devices is not so good for now.

 

Bertrand has been working on a newer version of the HTML5 plug-in. I'm sure He'll comment on this thread soon! The new plugin has support for building your own theme, where the older plugin was tied to 960gs + jQuery. 

I'm not sure you'll want to get rid of a lot of javascript tho, as js is what gives HTML5 its magic! 

So I don't know the urgency of your need, but I hope that Bertrand can release the plug-in soon, as it is quite nice!


On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Wayne Brisette <wbrisett@...> wrote:


If you've done anything remotely complicated in DITA, your chances of being able to import it are pretty slim easily are pretty slim in Flare. It's a great product, just not a great DITA product. 

If I recall Webworks ePublisher also supports HTML5 and they use OT underneath so there's full support for DITA.

Wayne



From: Craig Wright <craigleewright@...>
To: "dita-users@..." <dita-users@...> 
Sent: Monday, March 3, 2014 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: [dita-users] Looking for a HTML5 solution




MadCap Flare outputs HTML5 and can be formatted using CSS. You can bypass the iframes-based skin to use CSS layouts as well. It supports DITA, but I'm not sure how well.





On Monday, 3 March 2014, 20:44, Mark Peters <markpeters.work@...> wrote:
 
Hi,

I'm a big fan of the DITA-OT HTML5 plugin developed by Bertrand Lefort. The output is clean. If I remember correctly, the TOC is embedded on each page as an iframe. Unfortunately, the plugin doesn't support all DITA HTML arguments yet, such as headers and footers.

What commercial products currently support simple HTML5 output? By "simple," I mean that the format is driven completely by CSS -- no additional frames (if they're even allowed by HTML5), no JavaScript other than what's needed maybe for TOC or search. Plus full-text search.

Again, I'm looking for HTML5 output that is easily formatted using CSS. Some commercial output, such as WebWorks Reverb, supports powerful features but is too complex for our needs. We need to make our webhelp adhere to an existing corporate structure.

Thanks,
Mark

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Re: Create continuous pdf

ian_larner@...
 

Sounds like a case for an epub instead of PDF, at least good for continuous online viewing.
The DITA OT for Publishers plugins can be used to create epubs.


Re: Looking for a HTML5 solution

Bertrand Lefort <blefort@...>
 

Thank you Ray, Mica and Craig for your comments.

As Mica explained it, I have nearly completed the next version of the HTML5 plugin. It has built-in support for  responsive design, syntax highlighting ( for  code) and some CSS3 features. It does not use AJAX or Frames. It comes with a collection of reusable css and javascripts and a mechanism (the theme mechanism, could have been named Skin) which allows you to customize it  for your needs. In the documentation, I explained how to port it to Foundation framework http://foundation.zurb.com and I will provide the customization plugin as a demo. I am planning to had a separate plugin for developpers who wants to use a CSS preprocessor. The plugin is not tight to any javascript library. 
For now, I am very busy with a big project at work but I will do my best to finish it soon.

Please note that I can't offer commercial support with this plugin yet, but you can send me email in private or using the list, I will do my best to answer to your question and use your feedback to improve the future releases.

The HTML5 plugin is part of the DITA 4 Publishers project and use its libraries to work.

Regards

Bertrand

On 2014-03-03, at 9:30 PM, Ray Fan <dfanster@...>
 wrote:



Bertrand and I have worked together on HTML 5 plugin for just Simplified Chinese, while my contribution is rather limited, I am generally happy with the HTML5 plugin output, where you have full control over its skins, by means of a 'Theme' based approach, so to speak. I have a  few artifacts to show.if you like, I can share with you. To the best of my knowledge, the responsive design is not ready yet, so a rendition effect on mobile devices is not so good for now.

 

Bertrand has been working on a newer version of the HTML5 plug-in. I'm sure He'll comment on this thread soon! The new plugin has support for building your own theme, where the older plugin was tied to 960gs + jQuery. 

I'm not sure you'll want to get rid of a lot of javascript tho, as js is what gives HTML5 its magic! 

So I don't know the urgency of your need, but I hope that Bertrand can release the plug-in soon, as it is quite nice!


On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Wayne Brisette <wbrisett@...> wrote:


If you've done anything remotely complicated in DITA, your chances of being able to import it are pretty slim easily are pretty slim in Flare. It's a great product, just not a great DITA product. 

If I recall Webworks ePublisher also supports HTML5 and they use OT underneath so there's full support for DITA.

Wayne



From: Craig Wright <craigleewright@...>
To: "dita-users@..." <dita-users@...> 
Sent: Monday, March 3, 2014 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: [dita-users] Looking for a HTML5 solution




MadCap Flare outputs HTML5 and can be formatted using CSS. You can bypass the iframes-based skin to use CSS layouts as well. It supports DITA, but I'm not sure how well.





On Monday, 3 March 2014, 20:44, Mark Peters <markpeters.work@...> wrote:
 
Hi,

I'm a big fan of the DITA-OT HTML5 plugin developed by Bertrand Lefort. The output is clean. If I remember correctly, the TOC is embedded on each page as an iframe. Unfortunately, the plugin doesn't support all DITA HTML arguments yet, such as headers and footers.

What commercial products currently support simple HTML5 output? By "simple," I mean that the format is driven completely by CSS -- no additional frames (if they're even allowed by HTML5), no JavaScript other than what's needed maybe for TOC or search. Plus full-text search.

Again, I'm looking for HTML5 output that is easily formatted using CSS. Some commercial output, such as WebWorks Reverb, supports powerful features but is too complex for our needs. We need to make our webhelp adhere to an existing corporate structure.

Thanks,
Mark

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Pivotal














Re: Learning DITA

Julio J Vazquez
 

Hi Tony,
That's a good question; wish I had a good answer. I know that at one point they just ported the PDF to an ebook. Then they came back and asked for something (I don't remember) and it wound up creating another ebook version. The technical content (including any errors) is the same. I'll probably start working on the next edition sometime over the summer when I have more info on 1.3 and get my notes together on the fixes I need to make to what's there. It'll probably have a new cover, too.
HTH,
Julio J. Vazquez
Write Spirit
http://www.writespiritservices.com


Re: Create continuous pdf

Wayne Brissette
 

Inge: 

I’m not really sure it’s as straight forward as that. In part because PDF is a Page Description language. You’re attacking the problem correctly (you determine the length and create a page the size you want). However, is that the best approach? Obviously I don’t know the reasons why your client has asked you to scope this, but on the other end, the customer end. What happens when they try to print out a such a large document? Will the page breaks be OK, or will they happen in the middle of text actually distorting the text (as I’ve seen many times when printing out HTML content)? 

Like the Prince tool, you can specify the page size, but unless I’m mistaken (Jarno, or Robert Anderson would know for sure), I think the Open Toolkit requires the page size "up front" so it knows how to manipulate the content and where to break up things, so I don’t think you can run a loop like you are currently experimenting with at the moment. Looking at the PDF spec, I don’t see anything that jumps out at me that seems to help.

I would question is PDF the right tool for the job you are doing? Reminds me of the analogy of using a sledgehammer to drive a screw into a board… it might work, but it’s not really the right tool for the job. 

Wayne 


On Mar 4, 2014, at 4:24, Inge Weyers <i.weyers@...> wrote:



Hello,
For one of our customers we are researching the possibilities of creating a continuous pdf, without page breaks (much like html). We’ve been looking at use Prince and increasing the page size and using a loop to determine the last coordinates to resize the page size to fit the content.
I was wondering whether the DITA OT might offer a more straightforward way for doing this? 
Kind regards,
Inge Weyers


Create continuous pdf

Inge Weyers <i.weyers@...>
 

Hello,

 

For one of our customers we are researching the possibilities of creating a continuous pdf, without page breaks (much like html). We’ve been looking at use Prince and increasing the page size and using a loop to determine the last coordinates to resize the page size to fit the content.

 

I was wondering whether the DITA OT might offer a more straightforward way for doing this?

 

Kind regards,

 

Inge Weyers

 

 




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Re: How to Configure or Turn Off the i18n processing for PDF2 Transform?

Jarno Elovirta
 

You can skip I18N processing by setting the Ant property "pdf2.i18n.skip".

J

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On 3.3.2014, at 22.16, Eliot Kimber <ekimber@...> wrote:

 

Ah, that was the clue I needed. I had made the mistake of copying the
@font-family value from an earlier generate topic.fo file, but I had
forgotten (or maybe never really understood) that the i18n process maps
from the logical font names in the font-mappings.xml file to the real font
names.

When I replaced "MinionPro-Regular" with the logical font name ("MinioPro"
in my case) then it worked as I expected.

Cheers,

E.
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Eliot Kimber, Owner
Contrext, LLC
http://contrext.com

On 3/3/14, 12:26 PM, "Bertrand Lefort" <blefort@...> wrote:

>Hi Eliot,
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>customization plugin, I defined first the font in the font-mapping.xml
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>provided through a plugin, I am generating an fo:inline element with an
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Looking for a HTML5 solution

IDG <idg@...>
 

Hi Mark,

SuiteHelp is based on HTML5 and CSS3. You can completely customize the interface using HTML and CSS templates. No frames. Supports responsive design. Option for mobile jQuery format. Widely adopted in the DITA community by small and large corporations, for small data sets and very large data sets.

Full evaluation version is available.

www.suite-sol.com/pages/solutions/suitehelp.html

Joe

 

Joe Gelb
President, Suite Solutions
US Phone: 609 360 0650
Email: joeg@...

 

From: dita-users@... [mailto:dita-users@...] On Behalf Of Mark Peters
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 12:45 PM
To: dita-users@...
Subject: [dita-users] Looking for a HTML5 solution

 

 

Hi,

I'm a big fan of the DITA-OT HTML5 plugin developed by Bertrand Lefort. The output is clean. If I remember correctly, the TOC is embedded on each page as an iframe. Unfortunately, the plugin doesn't support all DITA HTML arguments yet, such as headers and footers.

What commercial products currently support simple HTML5 output? By "simple," I mean that the format is driven completely by CSS -- no additional frames (if they're even allowed by HTML5), no JavaScript other than what's needed maybe for TOC or search. Plus full-text search.

Again, I'm looking for HTML5 output that is easily formatted using CSS. Some commercial output, such as WebWorks Reverb, supports powerful features but is too complex for our needs. We need to make our webhelp adhere to an existing corporate structure.

Thanks,
Mark


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Senior technical writer
Pivotal


Re: Looking for a HTML5 solution

teamwis
 

Bertrand and I have worked together on HTML 5 plugin for just Simplified Chinese, while my contribution is rather limited, I am generally happy with the HTML5 plugin output, where you have full control over its skins, by means of a 'Theme' based approach, so to speak. I have a  few artifacts to show.if you like, I can share with you. To the best of my knowledge, the responsive design is not ready yet, so a rendition effect on mobile devices is not so good for now.

 

Bertrand has been working on a newer version of the HTML5 plug-in. I'm sure He'll comment on this thread soon! The new plugin has support for building your own theme, where the older plugin was tied to 960gs + jQuery.

I'm not sure you'll want to get rid of a lot of javascript tho, as js is what gives HTML5 its magic!

So I don't know the urgency of your need, but I hope that Bertrand can release the plug-in soon, as it is quite nice!


On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Wayne Brisette <wbrisett@...> wrote:


If you've done anything remotely complicated in DITA, your chances of being able to import it are pretty slim easily are pretty slim in Flare. It's a great product, just not a great DITA product. 

If I recall Webworks ePublisher also supports HTML5 and they use OT underneath so there's full support for DITA.

Wayne



From: Craig Wright <craigleewright@...>
To: "dita-users@..." <dita-users@...>
Sent: Monday, March 3, 2014 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: [dita-users] Looking for a HTML5 solution




MadCap Flare outputs HTML5 and can be formatted using CSS. You can bypass the iframes-based skin to use CSS layouts as well. It supports DITA, but I'm not sure how well.





On Monday, 3 March 2014, 20:44, Mark Peters <markpeters.work@...> wrote:
 
Hi,

I'm a big fan of the DITA-OT HTML5 plugin developed by Bertrand Lefort. The output is clean. If I remember correctly, the TOC is embedded on each page as an iframe. Unfortunately, the plugin doesn't support all DITA HTML arguments yet, such as headers and footers.

What commercial products currently support simple HTML5 output? By "simple," I mean that the format is driven completely by CSS -- no additional frames (if they're even allowed by HTML5), no JavaScript other than what's needed maybe for TOC or search. Plus full-text search.

Again, I'm looking for HTML5 output that is easily formatted using CSS. Some commercial output, such as WebWorks Reverb, supports powerful features but is too complex for our needs. We need to make our webhelp adhere to an existing corporate structure.

Thanks,
Mark

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Senior technical writer
Pivotal










Re: Learning DITA

Tony Chung
 

Just when I was going to pipe up with, How about Julio's Practical DITA book?

Big question for you, Mr V: Why are there two EPUB editions on Lulu? Can you explain the different versions and costs?

http://www.lulu.com/shop/julio-vazquez-and-sdi-globa-solutions/practical-dita/ebook/product-20664682.html

http://www.lulu.com/shop/julio-vazquez-and-sdi-globa-solutions/practical-dita/ebook/product-12287778.html

-Tony



On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 2:28 PM, <julio_v27612@...> wrote:


Craig may just want to challenge himself by finding some content somewhere, analyzing it and seeing if he can see reuse opportunities and try to implement them. Or he can do what you did, Eliot and take a favorite book and "DITA-ize" it. As for writing a book no how to write with DITA, that's been done already (shameless plug coming) and I need to look at it again for the DITA 1.3 edition - Practical DITA. BTW, one of the negative comments I received was that the reuse in the book was obvious. Could it be that I planned it? LOL

Welcome to the journey, Craig.

Julio J. Vazquez
Write Spirit
http://www.writespiritservices.com



Re: Learning DITA

Mica Semrick <paperdigits@...>
 

Last I had heard, Apache Derby docs were in DITA. The product is open source, so the docs are probably accessible, and you can contribute.


On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Tom Magliery <tom.magliery@...> wrote:


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----- Original Message -----
From: dita-users@... <dita-users@...>
To: dita-users@... <dita-users@...>
Sent: Mon Mar 03 08:36:02 2014
Subject: Re: [dita-users] Learning DITA

 

DITA isn't just about reuse. It's also about having a useful and rich
markup language optimized for interoperation and interchange. So DITA can
be useful just as a general-purpose XML authoring vocabulary, whether you
ever need to do reuse or not.

Cheers,

Eliot
—————
Eliot Kimber, Owner
Contrext, LLC
http://contrext.com

On 3/3/14, 10:27 AM, "Craig Wright" <craigleewright@...> wrote:

>I will document my DITA journey and blog about it, but I don't intend to
>use DITA in the actual blog, because it doesn't really make sense to
>me...in a single document, such as a manual, I can't imagine there being
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>expect. But that doesn't mean creating another basics tutorial is a bad
>idea. Plus, you might be able to sell copies. ;-)
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Re: Learning DITA

Julio J Vazquez
 

Craig may just want to challenge himself by finding some content somewhere, analyzing it and seeing if he can see reuse opportunities and try to implement them. Or he can do what you did, Eliot and take a favorite book and "DITA-ize" it. As for writing a book no how to write with DITA, that's been done already (shameless plug coming) and I need to look at it again for the DITA 1.3 edition - Practical DITA. BTW, one of the negative comments I received was that the reuse in the book was obvious. Could it be that I planned it? LOL

Welcome to the journey, Craig.

Julio J. Vazquez
Write Spirit
http://www.writespiritservices.com


Re: Looking for a HTML5 solution

Mica Semrick <paperdigits@...>
 

Bertrand has been working on a newer version of the HTML5 plug-in. I'm sure He'll comment on this thread soon! The new plugin has support for building your own theme, where the older plugin was tied to 960gs + jQuery.

I'm not sure you'll want to get rid of a lot of javascript tho, as js is what gives HTML5 its magic!

So I don't know the urgency of your need, but I hope that Bertrand can release the plug-in soon, as it is quite nice!


On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Wayne Brisette <wbrisett@...> wrote:


If you've done anything remotely complicated in DITA, your chances of being able to import it are pretty slim easily are pretty slim in Flare. It's a great product, just not a great DITA product. 

If I recall Webworks ePublisher also supports HTML5 and they use OT underneath so there's full support for DITA.

Wayne



From: Craig Wright <craigleewright@...>
To: "dita-users@..." <dita-users@...>
Sent: Monday, March 3, 2014 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: [dita-users] Looking for a HTML5 solution




MadCap Flare outputs HTML5 and can be formatted using CSS. You can bypass the iframes-based skin to use CSS layouts as well. It supports DITA, but I'm not sure how well.





On Monday, 3 March 2014, 20:44, Mark Peters <markpeters.work@...> wrote:
 
Hi,

I'm a big fan of the DITA-OT HTML5 plugin developed by Bertrand Lefort. The output is clean. If I remember correctly, the TOC is embedded on each page as an iframe. Unfortunately, the plugin doesn't support all DITA HTML arguments yet, such as headers and footers.

What commercial products currently support simple HTML5 output? By "simple," I mean that the format is driven completely by CSS -- no additional frames (if they're even allowed by HTML5), no JavaScript other than what's needed maybe for TOC or search. Plus full-text search.

Again, I'm looking for HTML5 output that is easily formatted using CSS. Some commercial output, such as WebWorks Reverb, supports powerful features but is too complex for our needs. We need to make our webhelp adhere to an existing corporate structure.

Thanks,
Mark

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Re: Looking for a HTML5 solution

Mark Peters
 

I agree, Flare's a great product. Older versions of Flare "import" DITA content into a project rather than simply processing DITA content. That's fine, but I'd rather point a tool at a ditamap and process it, rather than importing and synching.

The WebWorks HTML5 output (WebWorks Reverb) is also great. But the structure seems too complex to bend to our will using CSS only.

Thanks,
Mark




On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Wayne Brisette <wbrisett@...> wrote:
 

If you've done anything remotely complicated in DITA, your chances of being able to import it are pretty slim easily are pretty slim in Flare. It's a great product, just not a great DITA product. 

If I recall Webworks ePublisher also supports HTML5 and they use OT underneath so there's full support for DITA.

Wayne



From: Craig Wright <craigleewright@...>
To: "dita-users@..." <dita-users@...>
Sent: Monday, March 3, 2014 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: [dita-users] Looking for a HTML5 solution




MadCap Flare outputs HTML5 and can be formatted using CSS. You can bypass the iframes-based skin to use CSS layouts as well. It supports DITA, but I'm not sure how well.





On Monday, 3 March 2014, 20:44, Mark Peters <markpeters.work@...> wrote:
 
Hi,

I'm a big fan of the DITA-OT HTML5 plugin developed by Bertrand Lefort. The output is clean. If I remember correctly, the TOC is embedded on each page as an iframe. Unfortunately, the plugin doesn't support all DITA HTML arguments yet, such as headers and footers.

What commercial products currently support simple HTML5 output? By "simple," I mean that the format is driven completely by CSS -- no additional frames (if they're even allowed by HTML5), no JavaScript other than what's needed maybe for TOC or search. Plus full-text search.

Again, I'm looking for HTML5 output that is easily formatted using CSS. Some commercial output, such as WebWorks Reverb, supports powerful features but is too complex for our needs. We need to make our webhelp adhere to an existing corporate structure.

Thanks,
Mark

--
Senior technical writer
Pivotal









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Senior technical writer
Pivotal


Re: Looking for a HTML5 solution

Bill Burns <bburns@...>
 

I second Wayne’s observations. You can use Flare in a constrained architecture and publishing workflow, but if your content structure is complex, you might need a more robust DITA solution. WebWorks ePublisher works well, and FrameMaker 12 also produces HTML5.

 

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